Come on now. There must be some Byrnes out there able to put together a few words. I'll be visiting Dublin/Wicklow in April - any ideas on a few quick spots to visit for Byrne history if only in area for a few days?
paul tks fr urs pls let me have you, pedigree, itinerary, dates, ur expectations etc
Thx Val. My father Thomas Byrne ('dock worker' I'm told) married Ellen - don't know maiden name sometime c. 1920. Of their children, my father, Joseph Byrne (b. 1928), and his older sister Evelyn Byrne, married and became a Kelly, older but not sure age. They had an older sibling who died at a younger age I believe. My father, and mother, emigrated to US in 1965, and I was born here. My mom's history is interesting, but she's adopted from the north, and more interested in the Byrne history.
I'll likely just have a day, or maybe two, to see a few things - I remember going to Arklow as a child to meet distant relatives. I hope to rent a car to drive out - I'm staying in Rathfarnham, Dublin 14, for most of the week and have business to attend. Perhaps I should go back to Arklow? Thanks for any info. Best regards and cheers. Paul Byrne
Hey I have an interesting theory. I believe the Byrne's may have their origins in the middle east. One of the lost tribes of israel. Namely juda or judea. I have been doing research for some time and I know genetic studies have been done to somewhat support this claim. I wonder how one would go about getting more information
hello, I am from New Zealand,i have a Bryne in my family tree, all i know is that she is my great great grandmother, her name is Annie and she married Gregory cunningham of glendalough wicklow and they had my great grandfather James Joseph Cunningham who imigrated to nz, he was born 1862 glendalough wicklow, I am back in Ireland on the 19 June to 26 July, spent some time in Wicklow two months ago, went around in circles and the person at the city council wasnt in on the days I was there. If anyone knows anything re my great great grandmothers family would be greatly appreciated
I would go to Glendalough and look around at the grave stones - more Byrne's there than perhaps any other names. Many from around mid-19th Century.
I see that this note is dated 2014, so you may already have the following info.
The Grave stones of most of the grave yards of Wicklow county are available on the net. Glendalough grave yards have a large number of Byrne names in them.
we may have a double connecton. There are Karsten connections on my dads side tracing back through Kitty Barry ( Cork) who married Henry Higgins . One of their children married into a Karstens line with NZ connections . On my mothers side my maternal grandmother was a Byrne tracing to a 1798 exile to Australia
Gregory Cuningham died 14th May 1886 at Ballylusk (County Wicklow). He was married and aged 75 years. farmer, Informant was Kate Cunningham of Ballylusk.
Anne Cunningham died 6th January 1909 at Ballylusk. She was a widow and aged 81 years. farmer. Informant was Kate Cunningham, daughter, of Ballylusk.
Tombstones of county Wicklow, including the two grave yards of Glendalough, are on the web. (only two Cunningham names, but not the two above).
hi Julie. I think we are related. Your name has popped up before. My grandmother was a Byrne descending from Richard . However i have vague recollection of connection to that name on the other side of my family namely Henry Higgins and Catherine Barry
tried to do that, due to easter it was a nightmare to find a carpark, I have a list of Byrne graves which i am slowly going through on familysearch through the mormon temple. I also want to go to the visitors centre there and see what info they have re the area. When are you going \Paul?
I was there last month, in April.
I am so looking forward to visiting Wicklow, Ireland in Sept. 2014 and hope to find more than gravestones. I would love to find some relatives of my great, great Grandfather, John Byrnes/Burns, born about 1784 who married Margaret Armstrong, born about 1793 and had 6 children. They came to Canada in 1831 and settled near Kingston, Ontario. Please help me. Many, many thanks. I can supply children's names and birth dates if that will help.
Also visiting Wicklow, in particular Enniskerry, Powerscourt, Glencree. Would be interested in meeting relatives of my great-great-grandfather Patrick Byrne who married Mary McGirk. They had 6 children, Mary Michael (left for NZ - my great grandfather) Thomas,Patrick, James and Peter.
There are so many Byrne's with the same names, but my grandfather was Thomas Byrne would married Ellen (don't know maiden name) - they lived in Dublin, where my father Joseph was born in 1928.
Paul, the Thomas Byrne who was my great grandfathers brother, married a Margaret Murphy and lived in America.
My ancestors in Wicklow lived in and around Cloon / Tonygarrow ... possibly part of Powerscourt today!!
Val: Can you give me some websites or church sites or anything to help me with search for Byrnes's. My great, great grandfather was born about 1784. His name was John Burns and he came to Canada in 1831. He married Margaret Armstrong born about 1793. they brought 6 children with them. I have tried many sites but made no progress and want to find some relations before I visit Wicklow in September 2014. Can anyone here help me. Thanks, Marilyn
My name is also Burns but should be Byrne.It was changed by a Scottish recruiting sargeant who put his name down in the Scottish format.All his pension records carried this name hence my name.But on my father's side I am descended from the Wicklow O'Byrnes.My great great grandfather was born in Wicklow in1794.His wife Mary Nolan was born in Bray(father Charles Nolan) in1799.My mother's name was also Byrne, descended from the Kildare O'Byrnes, so I have the name on both sides of the family.My great grandmother,s name was Mary Prizeman, a Prussian name which I was able to trace in England to 1556(the year Nostradamus died).This must be pretty unique. Yours for now, Francis Thomas Burns.
my great great great great grandfather, RichardByrne , was born in Castletown , Kildare 1775 , resident at Calverstown when arrrested in 1798, apparently an associate of Robert Emmet . got a free trip to Australia
i have since disproven the Castletown , Kildare birth place . It could be Wicklow or even on the Castletown Estate at Pallis in Wexford
Gary, Thanks for this info. Richard Byrne is my great great great grandfather on my maternal grandmother's side. I'd love to hear if you get any more information on his birth or further back parents etc.
Gary this link with his 'aliases' might help?
I am now thinking the birthplace Castletown is actually Caftletown . Some documents show one or other but the older more reliable usually Caftletown and that is the old name for Calverstown where he was arrested. This makes more sense to me
It now appears Richard was Glenmalure born . certainly resident at Calverstown when arrested . he was a county delegate for Wicklow for United Irishmen
Still trying to pin down where in Wicklow my great, great, grandfather John Byrnes/Burns came from? He married Margaret Armstrong born about 1793. John born about 1784. They came to Canada with six children in 1831. Can someone help me find relatives before I visit Ireland in September 2014.
Are you sure that your gggf came from Wicklow? You said he married an Armstrong, which was not a common name in that county in the early 19th century. It is a Scottish plantation name of course and in Griffiths Valuation there were only 8 Armstrong families in Wicklow compared to (for example) 421 in Fermanagh.
Going in two weeks to Wicklow. Does anyone know someone that could be my g, g, grandfather's brother? His name was John Byrnes and married Margaret Armstrong. Came to Canada in 1831 with 6 children and settled near Kingston, Ontario at Lansdowne, Ontario and was ill but children and wife farmed.
Trying to expand my family tree on my fathers side. Begins with Edward 'Big Ned' O'Byrne (1874 - 1953) married Catherine McCormick, then moved from Dublin to Glasgow. He served in the Royal Artillery during WW1. They had 3 children, Patrick, Catherine and Edward (my grandfather who dropped the O from the surname).
Would like to try and go back a bit further if possible.
My grandmother's maiden name was Byrne. Her name was Mable Beatrice Byrne b.1933-d.2004. I have been working off and on with my family tree for years and finally had a breakthrough, with the morman site. Then I did a little bit more digging with Ancestry.com. Now, I'm not entirely sure if my Byrne is within the same lineage, but the furthest back I could find was a Richard Byrne b. 1675 in Kilkenny co. Ireland. I don't have his wife's name. But his son was named George Heirs Byrne and he travelled to VA in the mid 1700's. I can trace that from my grandmother all the back to this person. I think this is wonderful that this site exists, and I would love to be able to show my father this site.
Val, I happened to look at your site a couple of days ago and noticed the following comments: ‘Extract from Nic Burns email to D. Rothwell and V. Byrne, 2nd August 2011’. I have no record of receiving such an email, but I note two concerns of yours, which as you have brought them up publically I would like to answer publically:
1) ‘Were Gerald Byrne and Mary Kavanagh married in c1736 as offered by Daniel below, or were Gerald Byrne and Mary Kavanagh married late in Gerald's life, c.177 1, for the purpose of retaining inheritance rights to the Sleaty property? My answer to this is in the deed dated 12 June 1759 (book 200 – page 157, entry 132499, Registry of Deeds) which I have before me. It reads: ‘A memorial of an indented deed bearing date the 12th day of June 1759 between Charles Byrne of Sleaty Gent., in the Queens County in the one part and Gerald Byrne of the same... only son and heir apparent of the said Charles...reciting that on or about the 3rd May 1736 said Charles and Gerald obtained a lease from Edward Madden and Elizabeth Best...’ Now, to take contract a lease all parties had to be aged 21 or over. So this proves that Charles was married sometime before 1715 and that his only son Gerald must have been born in 1715 or before. The 1759 lease goes on to make provision that if Gerald did not produce a male heir the place was to go to his daughter, Anne Best... It was clear that Charles was worried about the succession. Charles and his son Gerald were still alive in 1767 when on 10 March and 14 May1767 they took out an Indenture Lease and an Indenture Deed on 39 acres and 86 acres of Sleaty, respectively, (records 250-563-165810 and 256-132-165417, Registry of Deeds). I make no reference to a ‘1736 marriage record’ my reference is to primary source material demonstrating a marriage date of 1715 or before. You refer to a ‘ancestry message board mention of a Gerald Byrne and Mary Kananagh [sic] marriage in 1771’. I would not regard this as source material.
2) You say that: ‘if he did not produce a male heir, that Sleaty would revert to his aunt Ann Best and her heirs.’ Was not Anne best a daughter of Charles and therefore Gerald’s sister. Anyway, to answer your second point, Charles Byrne made his last Will on 10th April 1765. It was registered 11th December 1780 (Registry of Deeds, 332-571-225994). He directed that all his lands, including Sleaty, in counties Carlow and Kilkenny were to go in trust to Vera Ward of Hollymount, Queens County, and or John Byrne of Leighlinbridge, Carlow, whichever was the survivor of them, and, that they would then, later, be transferred to the sole and separate use of his daughter Ann Best and her assignees. No wardship is mentioned – so there was no grandson to provide for. The property did pass to Anne Best. She received the estate in a Release of Trust, (Registry of Deeds, 344-170-230697), registered on 13 January 1782. James Byrne of the city of Dublin, son and heir of John Byrne formerly of Leighlinbridge, Co. Carlow, stated that the trustees Vera Ward, and his father, John Byrne formerly of Leighlinbridge, Carlow, were now both deceased, and that according to the Will of Charles Byrne, he, James Byrne, was granting and releasing to Ann Best and her heirs, all property referred to in the Will of Charles Byrne.
Val, I would suggest that consider publishing the quoted source material in full. The Will of Gerald Byrne of Ballysallagh should also be of interest to you. Dated June 10th 1752 and proved on January 13th 1762, it mentions his cousins, James Byrne of Cournellan, Garrett Byrne of Sleaty and Pierce, son of Pierce Byrne of Ballyspellan. (Book 83, p. 8, Corrigan’s Notes). Other documentary evidence links these names to the Clara Castle and Bayswell House group of families, now represented by Anthony Byrne of Washington DC. Daniel Byrne-Rothwell, historian, author and editor of the ‘Byrnes and the O’Byrnes’.
Another Byrne/O'Broin group have created an "Order of the Raven" after Bran son of Maelmordha King of Leinster.Let me be the first to suggest where the name 'raven' came from.I think the name aludes to the fact that Bran's father Maelmordha King of Leinster fought for the side of the raven(vikings) at the Battle of Clontarf in1014, against that ursurper Brian Boru(cattle tributes). Maelmordha considered himself to be a pretender for the High Kingship, being King of Leinster.The raven was the emblem that was even seen on viking round shields standards and helmets being the symbol fo the viking God of War. Also (sorry viking splash!) the horned helmet thing was a Gaelic/Celtic thing not Viking! Anyone any thoughts?
I'm the son of Patrick Michel Byrnes, grandfather Robert Byrnes. I'm new to this and am planning to visit the Wicklow area summer of next year. I would be glad to meet Any family while I am there. In the meantime I'd like to learn more about my ancestors and where I come from.
Trying to find any connections to Richard Byrne , born 1776 . He was a United irishman arrested before the 1798 uprising began . He was resident at Calverstown , Kildare at the time . He wa s a bricklayer .I found him on a list of Wicklow United Irishmen at Wicklow gaol and found him described as Glenmalure born in a book by Prof Ruan O'donnel . He did not tell us his parents name unfortunately . Anyone with any clues out there to connect him to a family line
Gary tks fr yours.
As we dont do genealogical research there is onle ltd help I can give you.
If he was arested it could be that he may have been sent to Australia.
County wicklow Genealogical service may be able to help.
He could have easily lived in Glenmalure and worked in nearby Calverstown in County Kildare.
I know Ruan well and was at the opening of his book ,he is the foremost expert on 1798 but again unlikely to have any more info, he probably took the name from a list.
I dont know of any local historian who might help. Records of families are very poor for that period.
have a look at www.irishlinksworldwide . com and at the wicklow/ glenmalure chapter.
Richard Byrne was sent to australia as a convict, then was sent to Norfolk island as a convict. came back to australia for good behaviour and lived at the rocks in sydney where he was married to mary kelly she went by the name margaret. they had seven children, but i can only find the names of six. Catherine, James, Patrick, Richard jar, Jane, and ann, but i can't find who richards parents were in wicklow ireland.
I am thinking Richards birthplace is Caftletown. It seems in many documents it is used interchangeably but the older ones Caftletown and this was the old name for Calverstown where he was arrested . This makes sense to me . Based on a handwritten note on a petition
I believe his fathers name to be Murtough who had some connection to Garrett
I am coming to Ireland in April 2017. Is there any information you have on John Byrne (born 1791) married Ellen Enright. He is my 5th great grandfather if I have done my ancestry correctly. He had a son named Patrick who married Honora Shanahan. I would love to see where we were from in Ireland. or even if any family or markers. My grandfather was Lloyd Byrne who lived in Indianapolis Indiana. So if have any connection to this person would love to know.
My 2nd Great Grandfather is Patrick Jacobi (James) Byrne (1814-1884) who married first Honora Shanahan. It is presumed Honora died in the "famine". I can't find a grave or record of death. I found a record that states that Patrick was born in Listowel, County Kerry, Ireland to John Burns and Ellen Enright. ALTHOUGH I have been in contact with a distant cousin who thinks Patrick's parents are John Burns/Byrne and Mary Kelly. Can't find that record - more work to be done. According to Patrick's Naturalization papers in Vigo County, Indiana, USA he emigrated to the United States in June 1852 from Ireland to New York in August 1852. He married 2nd wife, Margaret Delane in 1855 in Terre Haute, Vigo County, Indiana. I come through their daughter Jennie Genevieve BYRNE Lynch. Please contact me and we can work on this together, if you wish.
Proof that the parents of Patrick Byrne (abt 1814-1874) are John Burns and Mary Kenny.
1876 OBIT of brother John Byrne:
"The late Mr. P. J. BYRNE, of Terra Haute, Indiana, was brother of Mr. John Byrne, the subject of our sketch. In the land of his adoption he never lost remembrance of the land of his love; his life while in America was employed in advancing the cause of Ireland; his charity was unbounded, and his end was that of the good and true."
Also his sister Ann, who had emigrated to the USA, and late married a man called Barrett, has this headstone erected to her parents and Sheon.
Headsone inscription reads: “Erected by Mrs ANN BARRETTIn memory of her beloved father and mother JOHN & MARY BYRNE And brother JOHN BYRNE WHO DIED SEPT 28 1877 Aged 78 YEARS R.I.P.
I've recently been trying to trace my family heritage, but am not having much luck with the Byrnes extension of my family. I would greatly appreciate any help. My grandfather, Tomas Daniel Byrnes, born on April 11, 1938 in Toronto, Canada, can't seem to remember much past his own parents. His father (my great grandfather) was Thomas Oliver George Fraser Byrnes, born in 1912 in Toronto, Canada. I believe both my father and grandfather were born around or in the Marmora area of Toronto, or at least settled down in that area.
I have found some hints on ancestry stating that my great great grandfather and grandmother could possibly be a Thomas Byrnes and Elizabeth Delaney. However, since this hint came from someone else's family tree the information is not at all reliable.
Once again, any help would be greatly appreciated :)
I'm not sure if I'm a Byrne ??? How can I figure this out ?? I see a lot of different spellings....my father is from Bryson Canada by died in Vietnam, I don't have any other family to ask....
My great grand mother was Elizabeth Heron Burns daughter of Thomas Burns from Ireland.
Hi can anyone give me some information on my grandad. His name was Peter O,Byrne born around 1880 in Dublin. He had approximately ten siblings one who was called Alfie. They were a political family and grandad Peter told stories of fighting the British. He was a fireman when he married Mollie Murphy and they had twelve children.Grandad last lived in a large house called St Anne's in county Dublin .they had sand quarries. my grandparents split up and both came to England.
Hi can anyone give me some information on my grandad. His name was Peter O,Byrne born around 1880 in Dublin. He had approximately ten siblings one who was called Alfie. (Lord mayor ?)They were a political family and grandad Peter told stories of fighting the British. He was a fireman when he married Mollie Murphy and they had twelve children.
My grandad was Peter O,Byrne born around 1880 in Dublin. He had approximately ten siblings one who was called Alfie. (Lord mayor ?)They were a political family and grandad Peter told stories of fighting the British. He was a fireman when he married Mollie Murphy and they had twelve children.
My grandad was Peter O,Byrne born around 1880 in Dublin. He had approximately ten siblings one who was called Alfie. (Lord mayor ?)They were a political family and grandad Peter told stories of fighting the British.
I wold love to hear from anyone who think they might be related to/descendant of Patrick Lacey and Esther Byrne(s) of Laragh, married around 1830. They and their children JOhn, WInney, Biddy, Hugh, Mary Ann ad Peter came to South Australia in 1854.
Also anyone who is related to/descended from Patrick Byrnes and Catherine McKeon of Ballymorris, near Aughrim. They and 4 of their children sailed to South Australia in 1851. Their eldest daughter Catherine, born 1832 did not come with them.
Hi my Grandmother is a Byrne, all I know is my Great Grandfather Joseph Byrne was born around 1890s in Ireland and moved to the USA before my grandmother was born I am currently 19, and I'm really interested in learning my heritage. My mom said theres Byrnes in Arkansas that I'm related to. If you possibly know something please let me know. Thanks
i have been researching family history of Richard Byrne who married Mary Kelly, convicts sent to australia, Richard was a stone mason and built a house at the rocks in sydney australia. some of his children went to New Zealand as whalers, and some stayed in sydney or Queensland, i think Patrick was in Newcastle Australia, i would appreciate if anyone has information on this family line.
did you get info ? If not i have heaps. Email me firstname.lastname@example.org
Richard was my gggg grandfather
Richard is my 5th great grandfather and we've hit a stumbling block with anything preceding him.
Would love to get any information you might have to assist.
Hi, I am trying to find out about my ancestors who have the surname Byrne. There are direct references to my great great great grandfather Patrick Byrne (who also was called Billy O'Byrne). He was involved in the Wicklow Mountains '98 rising. He was transported to Australian. He was a good friend of Michael Dwyer who lived close to him at Bungendore side of Lake George, NSW. Patrick's wife was Sarah Best. She was also transported and they were married in Parramatta. They had a son called John Byrne (who is my great great grandfather). Could you please help me understand who Billy O'Byrne was and what is line is?
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I have recently got results of mDNA which follow maternal line, my mother's mother, mother etc. My family tree on this maternal basis goes back to Jane O'Byrne, who is reputed to be daughter of Feagh McHugh O'Byrne (1544-1597) and one of his wives. Does anyone know, name of his wife who was mother of Jane. I have an mDNA EXACT match with a person in Carolina USA with the common ancestor possibly Jane O'Byrnes grand daughter.
Correction: I do not have an mtDNA match with Jane O'Byrne. On my family tree, Jane O'Byrne is one of many, many 12th maternal great grandmothers. The common mtDNA ancestor between me and a person in USA is possibly the wife, Dorothy Williams, of the grandson of Jane O'Byrne, Richard Dobbs.
Correction to previous post: Whereas Jane O'Byrne is according to my maternal tree, one of many 12th grandmothers, I do not share same mtDNA with her. The common ancestor with another person in USA is Dorothy Williams who was Jane O'Byrne's grandson's wife.
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